Then I came back to Canada. Don't Ruin it. Than iddat is necessary for that woman or not.. Hina, if they divorce without living together or consummating the marriage, then no iddah is required. I am familiar with these hadith and do not care for your condescending tone. We did nikah on 15 march and then he went back. Is it permissible for the newlywed couple to be intimate before Rukhsati and moving in with another? Perhaps you will be given a better husband in this life and if not then with patience a better one in the life to come. The message for divorce should come from him and not his first wife. My understanding of how the triple divorce works is that first you have to be married and then married again after each divorce. I am now in my home country. I think this Molana sahib is mistaken and you should try another one. Aoa sir I have married one year before our nikha was done in masjid in the presence of our relatives after nikha my husband went Saudi Arabia and rukhsti was decided after his return.my husband send me 3 divorce after one year at three months interval. Converted to Islam from Hinduism, but girlfriend’s parents don’t accept me, About to convert to Islam, but lost my Muslim boyfriend, After marriage, my Hindu love interest will allow me to follow my caste, Parents blackmailing me into marrying someone other than the girl I love. The girl lied about her age and I found out her actual age after nikah when I started speaking to the girl. The next step would be that he gives up half the Mahar to you as your right unless you forgo this right. So I leave my case in the court of Allah. what kind of divorce is this? We are planning on doing rukhsati and valeema in October, 2016. Marriage is not consumated.. Beyond that you can get married two more times to him without having to marry someone else first. Also consider, how do you divorce someone two more times when the first divorce made it so you were no longer married to them? After rukhsati, the spouses begin living together as husband and wife. He says you are divorced then you are divorced. Re: husband and wife rights after nikah and before Rukhsti or wedding:wswrwb: If you both had your nikah (she said Qabool Hai and you said Qabool Hai) signed the paper, had 2 witnesses, etc. Divorce idda of women without rukhsati. During that time he can take you back: In most cases the rukhsati takes place within a few hours after nikah, but sometimes families postpone the consummation of marriage or rukhsati for a later time. Pre-Nikah. Usually there are two witnesses at the end of divorce to confirm divorce occurred but in your case he has said it three times to multiple people. Thus it is fundamentally wrong to put restrictions on the degree and nature of contact between couples after the Nikah has occurred. ÙÙØ§ÙÙ ÙÙÙØ§ Ø¹ÙØªÙØ§ÙÙ ÙÙÙ Ø¥ÙØºÙÙØ§ÙÙ But I think he shouldn't be forbidding her from a normal life as that would only harm her in the longrun. There is no rukhsti so u r not eligible for half or full haq mahar. And to forgo it is nearer to righteousness. Nikkah is legal marriage and Ruksati is a cultural tradition. JazakAllah Sir Khula without rukhsati can be obtained by wife. Please help.. I don't know how I can delet my msgs from this site otherwise I explain in details. : And if you divorce them before you have touched them and you have already specified for them an obligation, then [give] half of what you specified - unless they forego the right or the one in whose hand is the marriage contract foregoes it. (p242) There is also Nikah Misyar, a non-temporary marriage with the removal of some conditions such as living together, permitted by some Sunni scholars. The marital relationship in the present situation cannot be objected to on legal grounds. https://quran.com/2/227-240. See here: http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-the-scholar/family/waiting-period/170002.html. On forcing by both the families i used these words by uttering her name, in her absence, "i divorce, i divorce, i divorce". This nikah before the rukhsati thing seems to be something which is an incredible hassle. And if you paid it already then she should return it. If your case is that you haven't even been touched then there is no waiting period. Rukhsati technically means consummation of marriage or having sex between husband and wife so as per Islam if the rukhsati has not taken place or the marriage has not been consummated then the wife has no need to abserve the period of iddat as the main reason of observing the iddat period is to solve the issue of parental rights of a new born baby so if there was no rukhsati then the wife don’t need to observe the iddat period. Allah bless you. The only way you can remarry him is if you marry someone else sincerely, intending to stay with that person, and then through the natural course of time and events you end up getting divorced. Kindly suggest the Islamic ruling for talaq (divorce) needed from female after having nikah not rukhsati after a period of 1 month. Find someone better inshaAllah. In the Family Courts in Pakistan, reconciliation by arbitration is attempted during the court proceedings. NADRA DIVORCE CERTIFICATE IN PAKISTAN | NAZIA LAW ASSOCIATES, Saddiq Trade Center, Gulberg, Lahore Pakistan. South Asian Muslims who don't do rukhsati along with nikah usually treat the "nikah" like an engagement until rukhsati takes place, which is Islamically wrong but culturally an accepted practice. I am aware that this is an acceptible practice. In most cases the Rukhsati takes place within a few hours after Nikah, but sometimes families postpone the consummation of marriage or Rukhsati for a later time. âHis mom threw a fit last time we met, so now he says we canât go out for a few weeks. I left for Canada 3 days after Nikah but before that I had some deep intimate moments with my wife (but didn't had intercourse). Sir on haq mahar my in laws have also many own hadees in which they are not bound to pay me haq mahar. Rukhsati and "big" wedding are not Islamic concepts. Thanks for your response. IslamicAnswers.com Staff Photo Gallery. Are you talking about the Islamic divorce or the civil divorce? One lac rupee is not more than someone' s life. After nikah, the couple are officially considered husband and wife and the Islamic commandment of veiling no longer applies between them. 3rd divorce he send but I refuse to accept and returns postman. I want to know am i fully divorced? And if i still want to remarry him can i do it without halala? Otherwise the talaq is binding. Do I need to observe a 3 month Iddah or is 1 month enough? Is it possible that we marry again or without halala is not possible because he said I want to get you back at any cost but if without halala we could not able to get eachother then I didn't ascept his apology. You must observe the standard 'iddah. In the situation where only the legality of the nikaah ceremony is performed and the consummation of marriage or rukhsati, when the husband and wife actually start living together as a family, is put off for a later date with the consent of both parties, there is absolutely no harm. In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. how much does a woman have to obey her husband after nikah , before rukhsati, i do not know. Zoe, you are fully divorced. 4- Mehr: Legal Share of Bride is given to the bride by the groom. If in such case i divorce her, will i be giving her the haq meher?? Then, either keep [her] in an acceptable manner or release [her] with good treatment. These are the limits of Allah, so do not transgress them. So after his death is iddah necessary for me.. I don't know if you are actually divorced, brother ali. When you marry believing women, and then divorce them before you have sexual intercourse with them, no âiddah have you to count in respect of them. Did your husband speak to you and then said "you are divorced", or he just told the court that you are divorced? In any case, many scholars count the "triple talaq" as one divorce, so if you want to remarry her you can do so. The husband can also adopt the legal divorce procedure in Pakistan even if rukhsati takes place or not. JazakAllah In that case you could remarry him. Reference to show that without being touched there is no waiting period: Khula without rukhsati in Pakistan is done in the same way as the khula with rukhsati. I have understood from the answers on this website that there are no restrictions between a man and a woman after the nikah, even though the marriage has not been consumated yet. Allah give me justice its my believe. Hi i have a Question if husband give Talak to his Wife without Rukhasti after Nikkha is there any Haq meher Wajib to husband any amount or NO amount bec after 1 month of nikkaha husband and wife want Talak no Physical relation, no loving moments nothing. my husband said return us gold ornament which is cost one lac rupee.he said I don't want to give you haq mahar. As-salÄmu âalaykum wa-rahmatullÄhi wa-barakÄtuh. It was not disclosed to me that she had a nikah in the past which ended in divorce before ruksati. 1. I have two questions. After the nikah, the girl or her parents wish to keep the girl back for some reason or the other. The Prayer of Need (Salat al-Hajah) or Istikhara? Salam. What legal and islam point of view on it. As Brother Issah has said, if you and your husband have not consummated the marriage there is no iddah to observe, and if your husband wants to re-marry you, there would need to be a new nikah. And do not forget graciousness between you. Posted by 9 days ago. In most cases the rukhsati takes place within a few hours after nikah, but sometimes families postpone the consummation of marriage or rukhsati for a later time. By the way, "halala" is a haram and cursed practice. We did not hve anythng amongst us, we did nt consummated our marriage. You have to get back together after the first divorce within the iddah period, or have to get a new nikah post iddah period. It does not apply to someone who feels the ordinary anger that most people experience. Can I meet my wife before rukhsati. Allah hafiz. Second, you both have some responsibilities towards each other. Good luck in your life. He was already married living with his 1st wife and three kids in uk. Should I submit my spousal sponsorship case now, mentioning that Rukhsati will be held in october 2016. However, is there any way tht i can remarry him, although the divorce is being imposed on me against my will. Here is the reference on the Mahr, I forgot to say that he can forgo the whole Mahr if he wishes. I have had my nikah. If your ex-husband wanted to stay with you, he should not have sent you three divorces. Please register and submit your question as a separate post, thank you. Answer: In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. No one should do it. These were my exact words and I only texted this once in a fit of anger. Nikah was done, a Mahar was set, he pronounced divorce and told you and your mother. My question is can i remarry him without halala?? First 2 divorcs receive my mother I was sad because I don't want to take divorce. But if your faith is such that you will be closer to Allah if you give it back then you should: https://quran.com/2/229: You can give up your right to your mahar and gift back the jewelry. To me this verse is pretty clear and not complicated. If you will resent Allah for giving back the Mahar and the jewelry then that would be bad. He can't just tell you that he divorces you three times in the past. What are the rules for Iddah if divorce takes place after nikah but before marriage? PLEASE CLEAR MY DOUGHT ON THIS MATTER.. Is their an islamic basis for rukhsati. I'm not saying that you've divorced twice so that this verse applies to you. 19. The wife is entitled to seek divorce from her side with eventual consent of the husband (khula) or by dissolution of the marriage through a judicial order (faskh). As far as I am aware, ruksati is more of a cultural tradition, so its presence or absence wouldn't affect the state of your marriage. Khula is a right of divorce available to a wife which can be exercised in Pakistan by applying khula in family court through a divorce lawyer in Pakistan. Sorry for the delay in response, I thought I had already responded. Frequency of sexual intercourse is not an issue unless the marriage was never consummated at all, in which case there is 'iddah. It is not a condition for the nikah to be valid, but the right of mehr arises as a natural result of the nikah for the bride. What is permissible for a husband after doing the marriage contract with his wife and before announcing the consummation of the marriage? 3- Announcement: Marriages, especially the ceremony of nikah is performed in order to announce the marriage. You can tell him that if he's not talking then what exactly are you waiting for? Did you have a proper Islamic nikah? There is nothing that says a girl must receive three divorces before she is considered divorced. But this should be in line with your faith. The second thing is that he can't divorce you three times without marrying you three times. There again we had number of deep intimate bedroom encounters (but no intercourse this time as well). I hope things work out for you. âThere is no divorce and no freeing of slaves when it is done by force or in a state of intense anger.â It will be another sin to count against him. After Rukhsati the spouses begin living together as husband and wife. He needs to start talking to your family about getting married again. And get back together, Marriage is a beautiful Her age is a concern for me as she is older than the age mark I would have considered for marriage. Talaq is not a game, so plz refrain from playing with it, Call your wife and apologize Allah states, "O you who believe, fulfill your promises." Salam, Where no rukhsati took place the wife has to return all the haq mehar if she has received the haq mehar as prompt dower and in case she has not received any dower amount she has to surrender the entire dower amount and she will not be entitled to receive any dower amount from his husband which was mentioned in the nikahnama. At the time of 3rd divorce I was at home so I refuse to accept 3rd divorce paper and returns postman now my husband want to remarry me I don't know what is in his heart. The answer is that yes the female can take khula before rukhsati in Pakistan. https://quran.com/33/49, If he had touched you then there is a period of waiting for you. I got married to a girl one year back. The reality of it is if you had been touched you would have to stay with him for the iddat period. So he just keeps sending "I divorce you" through the mail or through your mom? According to the Quran, he has to pay half unless you give up the right. And to forego it is nearer to righteousness. Some people decide to leave a gap, of say six months, between the nikah and rukhsati in order to prevent delaying the nikah. I never wanted to be divorced i still love him alot.please guide me is it halal to remarry him without marrying another person first? There is no difference in khula procedure in Pakistan even the rukhsati takes place or not. Khula before rukhsati can be taken any time as the khula is the right of wife and the wife can initiate the legal divorce procedure in Pakistan. To divorce you must first be married, you cannot divorce 3 times without being in a state of marriage 3 times. You know divorce in our society is stigma for women.they try to derail my name without any sin. I hope things work out for you. And I assume he has been told about the Quran verses related to this. So if he has divorced you, you are currently divorced once. He owes you half the mahr which if you wish to give up you may and life moves on. 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